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Fornost Fornostsen
The Scope
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Posted - 2015.09.09 08:32:58 -
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Dunno about T3 cruisers: i don't fly them and don't face them a lot being in FW, but i think that the price + SP loss are intended to work on a ship a little OP.
T3D: they are a mistake and i really don't know if they can be fixed.
They are fun to fly and the mode change "on the fly" is a good idea.
BUT
CCP introduced them as small combat ships, a meta that was already crowded (t1 frig, navy and pirate frig, AF, combat ceptors, t1 dessies and dictors... Damn you can even combat fit an Heron!) and enough balanced after years of work (you have at least one ship that could fit one specific role).
T3D simply fills the role that previously was covered by AFs and T1 dessies (and even some combat ceptor) oveperforming them in every role.
Before T3D if you wanted good tank/DPS, small sig with some speed and agility you could chose between several dessies (more tank/DPS, less speed and agility, lower price and SP requirements) and AFs (less tank/DPS, more speed and agility, higher price and SP requirements).
Even dictors where used for specific roles not involving bubbles.
Now you simply prefer a T3D, the only pros for T1 dessies being the lower price and SP requirement while AFs are simpy unuseful. |
Fornost Fornostsen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.10 09:11:32 -
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Kibitt Kallinikov wrote:With regards to T3Destroyers - cost. I'd say 100mil a hull is a good place to be. Restrict them to medium - large sized FW plexes.
100M and medium plex restrictions will be good, if you look at the small meta.
The problem is that for 60/70M you can buy a navy cruiser that can access the same plexes and probably being better in every other aspects expect sig radius. OR spend between 120 and 200M and go for an HAC...
Dunno if at 100M and medium plex restrictions T3D will still be viable.
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Fornost Fornostsen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.10 10:27:18 -
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elitatwo wrote:If some people weren't so obsessed with green keyboards, EVE would be in a better place.
Totally disagree: ecology matters! |
Fornost Fornostsen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.12 08:46:10 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:baltec1 wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:
I'd buff AF's before nerfing T3Ds simply because I like both but I agree 100% with your assessment... AFs are in a bad place but T3Ds are fun as F to fly.
AF were in a good place before t3d showed up. That's what I think as well, but some people say otherwise. Well, pirate frig rebalance and T1 frig rebalance also had something to do with it
Before the introduction of T3Ds, worms and garmurs, the whole frig/dessy meta was very good balanced (some ships were a little stronger than others, but the general balance was very good). |
Fornost Fornostsen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.13 20:44:59 -
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Garrett Osinov wrote:Fornost Fornostsen wrote:Ares Desideratus wrote:baltec1 wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:
I'd buff AF's before nerfing T3Ds simply because I like both but I agree 100% with your assessment... AFs are in a bad place but T3Ds are fun as F to fly.
AF were in a good place before t3d showed up. That's what I think as well, but some people say otherwise. Well, pirate frig rebalance and T1 frig rebalance also had something to do with it Before the introduction of T3Ds, worms and garmurs, the whole frig/dessy meta was very good balanced (some ships were a little stronger than others, but the general balance was very good). Harpy is still good
Better than any of T3Ds?
That apart, before the whole meta was balanced |
Fornost Fornostsen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.14 09:01:46 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Don't nerf T3s, buff Battleships and Assault Frigates!
Yeah and then go through another 2 year cycle of tiericide and balancing...
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